A Response to J.D. Alt: Mobilization and Money

By Glenn Stehle

Analyzing the nexus of war, economics, and society is a fascinating undertaking.  War is the deployment of the state’s instruments of violence — the military and the police.  So instead of the nexus of war, economics, and society, we could just as easily speak of the nexus of state violence, economics and society.  And since Alt chose to make his article a morality tale, I would like to continue in that vein.

The two moral prerogatives which Alt articulates are 1) utilitarianism and 2) equality. We see this, for instance, when he notes that

At the finish line, however—VJ day, September 2, 1945—the U.S. had become the most powerful, efficient, and equitable economic power the world had ever seen.

However, I would argue that the marshalling of monetary power which Alt describes is normatively neutral, and that this sort of monetary policy can work just as easily for evil as it can for good.  I am reminded of these comments by Steve Keen:

The rise of Hitler came about because Hitler, when he came to power, Germany had a massive level of unemployment, and was largely due to the American banks refusing to roll over the debt German industry owed it and causing a huge financial crisis in Germany.  And then when Hitler came to power, he was told to balance the budget, and he basically told his economic minister where to go, and he locked him out of the room, ran huge deficits, built the welfare payment system, and built the industry for rearming, and basically Germany went from 25% unemployment to full employment.  And that’s why people in Germany regarded Hitler as a God.  So he got his legitimacy out of taking a contrarian approach to conventional economics to get out of the depression and succeeding.  And that played a huge role in his rise and of course led to the second world war as well. 

Which brings us to an intriguing question:  Did the US’s very different moral prerogatives advantage the US in the war effort by causing greater utility?

Peter Turchin, in War and Peace in War, states that

The critical assumption in my argument is that cooperation provides the basis for imperial power.  This assumption is at odds with the fundamental postulates of the dominant theories in social and biological sciences:  the rational choice in economics and the selfish gene in evolutionary biology.

Turchin further argues that “the corrosive effect that glaring inequality has on the willingness of people to cooperate” destroys “the capacity of societies for collective action.”  

The US was already a fairly equitable society at the time it entered WWII.  The money-culture ethics and money worship of the Roaring Twenties had already been waylaid by the Great Depression, as Frederick Lewis Allen explains in Since Yesterday:

The times produced new creeds, new devotions. 

But these were secular.

Their common denominator was social-mindedness; by which I mean that they were movements toward economic or social salvation – whether conceived in terms of prosperity or of justice or of mercy – not so much for individuals as such but for groups of people or for the whole nation, and also that they sought this salvation through organized action.

The great economic inequality that arose during the Roaring Twenties had also already been ameliorated by the Great Depression.  Here is a graph of the Gini Index of Income Inequality in America for the period 1920 to 2010:

And under the wise guidance of President Roosevelt, the nation’s Jim Crow racial order also came under assault, as David Montejano explains in Anglos and Mexicans in the Making of Texas, 1836 to 1986:

Social conflict and national crises provided the necessary impulse for the decline of old race arrangements. World War II, in particular, initiated dramatic changes on the domestic front. The need for soldiers and workers, and for positive international relations with Latin America, meant that the counterproductive and embarrassing customs of Jim Crow had to be shelved, at least for the duration of the emergency. In more lasting terms, the war created a generation of Mexican American veterans prepared to press for their rights and privileges. The cracks in the segregated order proved to be irreparable.

WWII profoundly reshaped American society. In the outstanding PBS special, A Class Apart, we see how these changes affected, for instance, Mexican Americans:

Benny Martínez: They were always referring to us as “dirty Mexicans.” They called us “pepper belly.” They called us “greasers.” They called us “wet back.” They made us feel ashamed to be a Mexican American.

Ignacio García: And as long as Mexican Americans believed that they couldn’t do anything about that, then they in a sense reinforce the system, the social stratification that occurred in their lives.

Narrator: Then came World War Two. Three hundred thousand Mexican Americans served their country. They suffered casualties and earned honors disproportionate to their numbers. They returned home with dramatically raised expectations, believing they had earned the right to first class citizenship.

Dr Ramiro Casso: We went to fight to give people liberty and to give them their civil rights, and then we come back home and we find that it is the same way as we left it!

Carlos Guerra: A great many people, came home expecting that they had won their full citizenship rights. When they come home and they’re decorated war heroes and they’re turned away from restaurants or told to go to the balconies of theaters, it created a building resentment. When their kids were not allowed to go to the good schools, it created a great deal of resentment.

Narrator: The treatment of Private Felix Longoria, a war hero killed in the Philippines, became a flashpoint. When his body was returned to his hometown of Three Rivers, Texas, in early 1949, the town’s only funeral parlor refused to hold a memorial service – because, they told Longoria’s widow, “the whites wouldn’t like it.”

Dr Ramiro Casso: This guy gave his life so that we could have the same rights and privileges that are available to everybody, and he couldn’t be buried with the whites because he was brown? What the hell?

Ignacio García: And it it really hits a nerve in the nation in particular with many veteran groups who say how can they not allow him to be buried.

Narrator: For Mexican Americans, the Longoria incident came at a crucial time. Since the twenties, civic organizations such as LULAC – the League of United Latin American Citizens – had begun pushing for civil rights, with some success. Now, emboldened by their war experience and growing political clout, Mexican American activists pressed demands for broader change. After an intense public campaign, Felix Longoria was buried in Arlington National Cemetery.

Ian Haney-López: And it’s this generation who fought in World War Two who begin to demand civil rights for Mexican Americans. They form important social organizations like the G.I. Forum. These organizations are committed to fighting for equality for Mexican Americans as well as to fighting for pride in Mexican origins.

The situation in Germany could not have been more different.  Informed as they were by eugenics and social Darwinism, the Nazis created a dog-eat-dog society in which social and racial ordering were carried to the extreme.  This not only resulted in a massive brain drain as scientists, intellectuals, writers, and artists either fled or were forced to leave Germany, but it seems to have greatly diminished the capacity for collective action, as this example illustrates:

Beyond the tangible reasons that the German effort never succeeded, the personalities of the German scientists inhibited their efforts. A simple example of this is the fact that in the first years of the war, when everyone in Germany believed that the war would be over by 1942, no scientist seriously considered the idea of developing an atomic weapon. Such a weapon would take years to develop and the war would be over before then. However, a much more important example is the conflicting personalities of the scientists themselves. Heisenberg later described the situation as each scientist being more concerned with increasing their own importance and funding then with successfully creating a self-sustained atomic reaction. What this meant is that German scientists often did not work together. At Farm Hall, Horst Korsching remarked, “[The atomic bomb] shows at any rate that the Americans are capable of real cooperation on a tremendous scale. That would have been impossible in Germany. Each one said that the other was unimportant” (Frank 75-76). Just one instance of this conflict occurred between Gerlach and Abraham Esau when both wanted to control the use of heavy water. The end of this conflict saw Gerlach in control of all atomic research and Esau refusing to work with him. This kind of lack of cooperation further damaged the German effort.

This example seems to belie the Utopian dream of neoliberals and neoconservatives, which is that science and technology can be used to perfect the implements of state violence to the point where cooperation is no longer needed.

Speaking of war, John J. Mearsheimer speaks of the abiding faith of the neoconservatives in science and technology to revolutionize the conduct of war.  In their future ideal world, massive mobilizations, which require widespread citizen cooperation, are no longer needed for the war effort, only better implements of violence:

The neo-conservatives’ faith in the efficacy of bandwagoning was based in good part on their faith in the so-called revolution in military affairs (RMA). In particular, they believed that the United States could rely on stealth technology, air-delivered precision-guided weapons, and small but highly mobile ground forces to win quick and decisive victories. They believed that the RMA gave the Bush administration a nimble military instrument which, to put it in Muhammad Ali’s terminology, could “float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.”

The American military, in their view, would swoop down out of the sky, finish off a regime, pull back and reload the shotgun for the next target. There might be a need for US ground troops in some cases, but that force would be small in number. The Bush doctrine did not call for a large army. Indeed, heavy reliance on a big army was antithetical to the strategy, because it would rob the military of the nimbleness and flexibility essential to make the strategy work.

This bias against big battalions explains why deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz (a prominent neo-conservative) and secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld dismissed out of hand (the then US army chief of staff) General Eric Shinsheki’s comment that the United States would need “several hundred thousand troops” to occupy Iraq. Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz understood that if the American military had to deploy huge numbers of troops in Iraq after Saddam was toppled, it would be pinned down, unable to float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. A large-scale occupation of Iraq would undermine the Bush administration’s plan to rely on the RMA to win quick and decisive victories.

The quasi-religious faith that large mobilizations are no longer needed may help to explain why the neocons are so indifferent to public opinion, as we currently see with the Syrian escalation.   If their theory is correct, after all, they really don’t need wide-spread public cooperation and participation — that is to put large numbers of boots on the ground — to fight and win wars.

But the neocon/neoliberal faith in the perfectibility of the state’s implements of violence through science and technology seems to cast an inward gaze too.  In “On Violence,” Hannah Arendt notes that: 

Even the tyrant, the One who rules against all, needs helpers in the business of violence, though their number may be rather restricted.  However, the strength of opinion, that is, the power of the government, depends on numbers; it is “in proportion to the number which it is associated,” and tyranny, as Montesquieu discovered, is therefore the most violent and least powerful of forms of government.  Indeed one of the most obvious distinctions between power and violence is that power always stands in need of numbers, whereas violence up to a point can manage without them because it relies on implements…

The extreme form of power is All against One, the extreme form of violence is One against All.


No government exclusively based on the means of violence has ever existed.  Even the totalitarian ruler, whose chief instrument of rule is torture, needs a power basis – the secret police and its net of informers.  Only the development of robot soldiers, which, as previously mentioned, would eliminate the human factor completely and, conceivably, permit one man with a push button to destroy whomever he pleased, could change this fundamental ascendancy of power over violence.    Even the most despotic domination we know of, the rule of master over slaves, who always outnumbered him, did not rest on superior means of coercion as such, but on a superior organization of power – that is, on the organized solidarity of the masters.  Single men without others to support them never have enough power to use violence successfully.

But what if the implements of state violence, as well as the capability to monitor social activity, can be perfected to such a degree that the need of others to support them is eliminated, or at least reduced to a very small band of loyal followers?  Then the need for cooperation becomes all but nil.  

If this neoliberal Utopia could be brought about, then mass cooperation would no longer be needed for either the conduct of military activities or for domestic social control.  In such a world, the political and economic equality needed to elicit cooperation would no longer be needed.  Utility would also undoubtedly suffer.  But if domination and control are the only imperatives, then equality and utility cease to be moral prerogatives. 

Author’s Bio:

Glenn was born in 1952 in Midland, Texas to a working class family where his father was a carpenter and mother a housekeeper. He received his Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering from University of Texas at El Paso in 1974 then worked in the Oil and Gas industry for Cities Service Oil Company followed by Union Texas Petroleum. He later became an independent consultant, specializing in drilling, completion and production operations as well as putting together oil and gas drilling prospects. In 1989 he founded a small telecom company, Call West Communications, with a partner and then in 2000 sold out and retired. After retiring he moved to Queretaro, Mexico where he spends his time reading, traveling and collecting Latin American art, mostly from the colonial period. He  spent all but the first few years of his working career as a small business person.

18 responses to “A Response to J.D. Alt: Mobilization and Money

  1. Two observations: First, in war, each side tries to exploit its superior capabilities. For the US, this is technology. For the terrorists, it is their unswerving devotion to, and willingness to die for, “the cause” – their spirit of cooperation, as it were. It would make as much sense for the US to use tactics suitable to their situation as it would for them to try to use ours. In Iraq and Afghanistan we pursued (after considerable initial success) a strategy that failed to use our technological advantages, and in the prolonging of the conflict we lost whatever cooperation had existed before. Kosovo and Libya were done more appropriately to our strengths.

    Second, your description of the German scientists seems very much like the feuding between MMT and MMR and Krugman and Austrians and neoliberal economists today. I wonder if we will achieve any better results than they did.

  2. Glenn, this is very informative stuff. But I really don’t see how it is a response to J.D.’s piece. When you say “that the marshalling of monetary power which Alt describes is normatively neutral, and that this sort of monetary policy can work just as easily for evil as it can for good,” I would reply “Of course.” But there really doesn’t seem to be anything in J.D,’s piece that implies otherwise, is there?

  3. –if domination and control are the only imperatives–

    A nicely written article arguing for equality and human rights — it looks as if USA has been a place for the white americans only but now the international landscape has drastically changed signalling us the rise of China and other Asian countries..

  4. Glenn has touched on a very valid subject that could be pertinent to MMT – that is the economics related to the rise of Hitler. I has intrigued me for many years how Hitler (or more importantly, his economic advisors) dragged Germany out of the depths of hyper inflation in 1933 to create the most powerful military nation in the world by 1939. Of all the books written about the rise of Germany during those years, the only one I have found that partially dealt with the economic aspect was Anthony Sutton’s “Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler”. Shirer’s gret tome, “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” hardly touched on the economic aspects. Gary Allen’s book, “None Dare call it Conspiracy” does go a little way into the manipulation and contortions of the US government in relation to pre war Germany, but none of these provide a detailed analysis of ttue economic picture of those years. Is there a comparison there for MMT?

    • There was an earlier post on NEP about inflation and hyper-inflation which, as I recall, pointed out that hype-inflation ended in Germany after about a year and a half or so, years before Hitler came to power.

      • I looked back at all NEP posts for 2013 and didn’t find an obvious candidate. Was it another blog? Someone should remember who, where, and when.

        • I think it was a post about a book by Adam Fergusson, “When Money Dies”. It’s been commented on several times recently, on various financial web sites.

          The hyperinflation was indeed in the early 1920’s, and Hitler did not come into power until 1933 (although he was politically active from 1923). Wikipedia says he fixed the Depression in Germany by deficit spending (“money printing”) to mobilize the country for war, starting in 1933.

          • Thanks, Golfer. That’s pretty much what I remember reading too. Ending hyper-inflation was one thing, ending the Depression was quite another. I don’t recall any discussion of the policies/tactics that ended hyper-inflation, but I’m guessing they involved steep taxation.

            • Wikipedia has a section on ending it. It involved “a new currency, the Rentenmark, backed by bonds indexed to market prices (in paper Marks) of gold.” Kind of like TIPS, it seems. There was also a new bank, and “the old central bank, was not allowed to discount any further government Treasury bills, which meant the corresponding issue of paper marks also ceased.” It’s kind of vague, and doesn’t mention budget considerations, except that the issuance of the new marks was tightly controlled. They circulated alongside the old marks for a time. Not all of this happened at once, and it took years for the courts to decide issues involving debts denominated in “marks”.

      • I read that one, too. The hyperinflation was around 1921-23 not 1933. A very detailed, almost month-by-month account. I think it may have been on an Austrian site.

  5. Alain Parguez’s In defense of the New Deal: Yes we can, therefore I must act, a comparative history revisioning the revisionist economic historians very instructively compares the policies of the USA, France & Germany during the 30s. His bibliography and paper is a decent guide to the literature on Germany etc. The effectiveness of the New Deal is almost always underestimated, minimized except by Parguez, Marshall Auerback and not many others. The USA had already recovered by Pearl Harbor.

    The relevant volume of Caro’s huge LBJ bio covers Longoria. Though he later backpedaled, burying Longoria at Arlington, as was his right, was LBJ’s idea.

  6. Glenn, thanks very much for your thoughtful and (for me) insightful response to my essay. Your observations about how and why Hitler rose to power rings true to my ear—and clearly points to the fact that sovereign spending can be used for good or evil. If we had a general operating agreement that sovereign spending, as described by the basic principles of MMT, was possible, then we’d have the monumentally difficult task of reaching consensus on how it should be directed. The issues you touch on here show why that task will be so difficult.
    My efforts thus far have been confined to contributing to the effort of just getting the first volley into the court where the other “team” will even see it and feel compelled to respond. Until that happens it seems the other issues are moot. Perhaps not, though. I’m unsure. It’s just that tackling them all at once seems an overwhelming task.
    Especially interesting to me are your observations about the neo-conservative obsession with a technology empowered military force that requires no collective consensus to deploy. In many ways, this parallels the issue I am most focused on: the systematic efforts of “management” to eliminate human labor (and the expense of wages and benefits) from their business models. From my perspective, this is the principal dilemma that MMT can address. But to even get there, the possibility of sovereign spending has to be generally accepted.
    Finally, your question about whether the “cooperative” nature of U.S. society is ultimately what defeated the “selfish” nature of Nazism is very compelling. In that light, World War II would seem to be a textbook case for Edward O. Wilson’s thesis that a social group with the most active altruistic genes will always dominate and defeat a group with the most active selfish genes. What is remarkable though, if you read the book A Call to Arms, is to see how “uncooperative” the U.S. mobilization effort actually was—and what a miracle, really, that it held together and succeeded.

    • Glenn Stehle

      Thank you for your kind response, Señor Alt.

      It seems there are many more questions than answers.

      One quesiton which nags at me is how did Russia mobilize? What were the financial, political and economic mechanisms that were employed?

      In World War II, C.L. Sulzberger speaks of the massive mobilization which was required of Russia for a successful war effot:

      The Russian Army that now headed toward the Führer’s Fortress Europe was a vastly different army from that which had fallen apart in 1941. It was a strange mixture: an army of quantity, slogging along with antiquated guns behind horse-drawn transport; and an army of quality, spearheaded by magnificent tanks. Huge amounts of materiel had been brought around the Arctic capes by British convoys and out of Iran by the American Persian Gulf Service Command. But useful as these tremendous numbers of trucks, planes, tanks, munitions, and shipments proved to be, they were nevertheless still fractional in importance. The U.S.S.R. itself had developed a huge ordinance industry, both around Moscow and in the Siberian reaches, where evacuated machinery was reassembled. From 1942 to 1944, Soviet factories manufactured three hundred and sixty thousand artillery pieces alone. The heavy Stalin-JS tank replaced the old KV-2 and was supplemented by self-propelled guns and howitzers….

      Although in the great encirclement of 1941 and 1942 the Red Army had lost 3,500,000 men in prisoners alone, by the time of the Kursk counteroffensive, Stalin had built a fresh force of 409 divisions.

      Sulzberger alludes to one factor which might have motivated the Russians to improve their aggregate utility — the fact that what Hitler had in mind for the Slavs was mass extermination:

      Many Russians greeted the Nazi invaders as friends come to free them from Stalinist oppression. Had the Germans fostered this initial good will, they might have won Russian support against the Communist regime: but in Nazi philosophy, with its fantasy of a master race, the Russians were Untermenschen — subhumans — fit only for slave labor. Hitler had ordered a completely ruthless campaign — and he was not disobeyed. Russian good will turned to hate. The people retaliated by wrecking troop trains, poisoning wells, murdering soldiers. At first these acts were scattered and spontaneous, but as Nazi repressive measures grew more savage, the resistance gradually took on organization and discipline. Very soon the partisans behind the lines were playing an important part in the war….

      On March 21, 1941, Hitler drafted his infamous Commissar Order: all Soviet commissars who were captured would be shot…..

      The invasion of England was bogged down, while Russia, with its Lebenstraum, remained an unalterable Nazi objective, as Hitler had made clear in Mein Kampf….

      [As Arundhati Roy explains, “Most of the genocidal killing from the fifteenth century onwards has been an integral part of Europe’s search for what the German geographer and zoologist Friedrich Ratzel famously called lebensraum, living space. Lebensraum was a word he coined to describe what he thought of as dominant human species’ natural impulse to expand their territory in their search for not just space, but sustenance. The idea of lebensraum was set out in precise terms in 1901, but Europe had already begun her quest for lebensraum four hundred years earlier, when Columbus landed in America.

      Sven Lindqvist, author of Exterminate All the Brutes, argues that it was Hitler’s quest for lebensraum — in a world that had already been carved up by other European countries — that led the Nazis to push through Eastern Europe and on toward Russia. The Jews of Eastern Europe and western Russia stood in the way of Hitler’s colonial ambitions. Therefore, like the native peoples of Africa and America and Asia, they had to be enslaved or liquidated. So, Lindqvist says, the Nazis’ racist dehumanization of Jews cannot be dismissed as a paroxysm of insane evil. Once again, it is a product of the familiar mix: economic determinism well marinated in age-old racism—very much in keeping with European tradition of the time…..

      ‘The struggle for lebensraum,’ Friedrich Ratzel said, after closely observing the struggle between native Indians and their European colonizers in North America, ‘is an annihilating struggle’. Annihilation doesn’t necessarily mean the physical extermination of people—by bludgeoning, beating, burning, bayoneting, gassing, bombing, or shooting them. (Except sometimes. Particularly when they try to put up a fight. Because then they become Terrorists.) Historically, the most efficient form of genocide has been to displace people from their homes, herd them together, and block their access to food and water. Under these conditions, they die without obvious violence and often in far greater numbers. This was how the Herero people were exterminated by the German General Adolf Lebrecht von Trotha in Southwest Africa in October 1904. ‘The Nazis gave the Jews a star on their coats and crowded them into ‘reserves,’ Sven Lindqvist writes, ‘just as the Indians, the Hereros, the Bushmen, the Amandebele, and all the other children of the stars had been crowded together. They died on their own when food supply to the reserves was cut off.’ “]

      Erich Koch governed the Ukraine with a rough hand as Reich Commissar. A loud proponent of the master race theory, he proclaimed that the lowliest German worker was “a thousand times more valuable than the population here.” …

      Hitler told his commanders they were not to accept the surrender of Leningrad. The city was to be razed to the ground by shelling and bombing, his monstrous directive said, and its people were to perish with it.

    • Joe Firestone

      Gentlemen, I agree that MMT analysis can support State deficit spending unconstrained by fears of insolvency for either good or ill. But, I also think that it is important to recognize that MMT is not neutral about whether the capabilities it points to ought to be used for good or ill. Most MMT researchers are clear that its brand of economics, at least, is about “public purpose,” and in this it follows Galbraith the elder. The idea of “public purpose” comes through in the writings of Mosler, Wray, Mitchell, Auerback, Forstater, Kelton, Tcherneva, and Fullwiler, at least.

      Of course, “public purpose,” is a vague and ambigous concept and its, meaning, in democracies, is to be worked out by the people and the processes of democratic participation. Nevertheless, it is pretty clear what “public purpose” means in MMT writings in addition to full employment with price stability. I’ve specified what else it means here, and extended that a bit later here, and I think it’s pretty apparent that MMT is growing a normative political/economic theory aimed at “good” rather than “evil” over time. That’s one of the things that first attracted me to MMT, and its further development is one of the things about it that motivates me now.

      Finally, I know that many MMTers emphasize that MMT is about reality and not what ought to be. While I agree that MMT is about reality, I disagree with people who want only to limit it to description. Fact cannot be separated from value and arguments that attempt to do that are no longer dominant in philosophy or philosophy of science. In fact, they are arguably 50 years out of date now. Even one-time logical empiricists such as Hilary Putnam have come around to that point of view.

      My own change to that point of view, came fairly early on, since I studied with Dick Rudner one of the pioneers in this areas along with R. B. Braithwaite, C. W. Churchman, and other pragmatists philosophers. Here’s my thinking on the subject of the split between fact and value, descriptive and normative, and why it doesn’t hold up.

      • Joe, I agree with you totally about the good intents of MMT. I’ve even thrown out there the idea that sovereign spending is the ultimate tool of the altruistic gene. I’m consistently frustrated by which part of the knot I should be pulling at: A big part of me wants to go directly to our architectural infrastructure and begin describing the remarkable (and equitable) world we could be creating for ourselves—but another part tells me, no, that’s an exercise in futility until there’s at least the beginning of a general acceptance of how it could all be paid for. So I’m continually drawn back to the problem of simply trying to lay bare the basic logical flaws of the standard narrative that taxpayers have to pay for sovereign spending.

  7. Thank you, Mr. Alt, for your response to Glenn–his post made more sense after your reply.

  8. A commenter, Full Employment Hawk, on a Brad DeLong blog about Niall Ferguson writes this about Ferguson’s bragging that he wrote his Ph.D. dissertation about German hyperinflation. The info contradicts Steve Keen’s assertion that Hitler threw out his economic minister, Horace Greely Hjalmar Schacht, and magically became a macoeconomic genius overcoming the effects of hyperinflation. Hjalmar Schacht, according to Wikipedia, “disagreed with what he called “unlawful activities” against Germany’s Jewish minority and in August 1935 made a speech denouncing Julius Streicher and Streicher’s writing in the Nazi newspaper Der Stürmer.” Schacht, who had supported Hitler in the interwar period and who objected to the reparation demands, had hit upon novel ways of dealings with it. He had become disillusioned with Hitler’s war effort and would up in Dachau as a result.

    Anyway, here is Full Employment Hawk’s comment

    Full Employment Hawk said…
    “I wrote my Ph.D. dissertation about German hyperinflation.”

    There is his [Ferguson’s] problem. If he had instead written his dissertation on how Horace Greely Hjalmar Schacht restored the German economy to full employment by 1936 under Hitler by using unorthodox methods, such as running deficits and financing them by printing money, and using exchange controls to isolate Germany from the effects of the gold standard, he would have a very different outlook on things.


  9. Irony on more than one level.

    We seem to have bought into the need for controls on NCBW’s, and yet, have collectively failed to see the risks to democracy, and liberty, created by the development, and less restricted use of sophisticated conventional weapons, and other tools which enable extreme concentrations of power. There is no doubting the thesis that the extensive use of fiat may have made all this possible.

    Turning the power of MMT toward “public purpose” or the “common good” is woven throughout it’s literature. As has been noted many times, the use of fiat to “mobilize” any type of effort is restricted by the availability of real resources. This fact is unaltered by the type of production society chooses to pursue, no amount of money will result in creation of more resources so it pays to use them wisely.

    J.D Alt mentioned E.O Wilson’s thesis about social groups with altruistic genes having the greater survival value in nature, and humanity is a part of that nature. Our evolutionary gift is that we have a combination of a largely socially cooperative nature, problem solving ability, creativity and critical analysis to guide their application to each crisis we have ever faced. Mind you we haven’t been at it all that long in evolutionary terms.

    Many real resources are getting thin, and nature is beginning to send us messages humankind may soon face crisis that force us to develop along a new path or be driven to evolve in the Darwinian (biological) sense. Perhaps it’s time to think more on this public purpose thing?